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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my reply ...

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How about actually providing some customer service!

Here&#039;s our experience so far;

- Purchased from a store in UK
- Returned defective product via rude staff, and only a partial refund.
- Got a letter saying &#039;sad to see you go&#039;
- Direct Debit wasn&#039;t cancelled as promised causing another payment to go out
- Got a call weeks later saying &#039;Welcome to Orange&#039;. wtf!
- Completed internet for asking for explanation of bad service etc but no reply after a week except dodgy emails like this...

Is there anyone at Orange who cares?

David.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my reply &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
How about actually providing some customer service!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s our experience so far;</p>
<p>- Purchased from a store in UK<br />
- Returned defective product via rude staff, and only a partial refund.<br />
- Got a letter saying &#8217;sad to see you go&#8217;<br />
- Direct Debit wasn&#8217;t cancelled as promised causing another payment to go out<br />
- Got a call weeks later saying &#8216;Welcome to Orange&#8217;. wtf!<br />
- Completed internet for asking for explanation of bad service etc but no reply after a week except dodgy emails like this&#8230;</p>
<p>Is there anyone at Orange who cares?</p>
<p>David.<br />
&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update from Orange UK;

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Hello

We recently sent you an email requesting feedback on our Online services. We&#039;d like to apologise for an error which meant that a number of customer&#039;s email addresses were not hidden from view in the mail. We&#039;re now reviewing our email policy to ensure that this doesn&#039;t happen again.

Once again we would like to apologise for any inconvenience this has caused you.

Orange

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from Orange UK;</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Hello</p>
<p>We recently sent you an email requesting feedback on our Online services. We&#8217;d like to apologise for an error which meant that a number of customer&#8217;s email addresses were not hidden from view in the mail. We&#8217;re now reviewing our email policy to ensure that this doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
<p>Once again we would like to apologise for any inconvenience this has caused you.</p>
<p>Orange</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Summary-  Vodafone wins on in store pre-sales, coverage (even underestimating) and post sales complaint resolution.

Orange OK on store sales, but failed terribly with in store post purchase complaints (Emma I hope you&#039;re reading this, try to remember customers pay your wages) and online complaint handling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Summary-  Vodafone wins on in store pre-sales, coverage (even underestimating) and post sales complaint resolution.</p>
<p>Orange OK on store sales, but failed terribly with in store post purchase complaints (Emma I hope you&#8217;re reading this, try to remember customers pay your wages) and online complaint handling.</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE - Vodafone offers big discount. - Still no response from Orange(#fail)
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Hi ,

Thank you for your email.

In order to assist with your query please provide the 4 digit PIN you selected to authorise my access to your account.

If you do not remember your PIN, please provide the below identification requirements:

On Account (billed) Customers: If you are the account owner, forward your full name, date of birth, current residential address and method of payment to enable me to access your details.

Prepaid: Customers: If you are the account owner, forward your full name, ID number (I.e. drivers licence number, passport number etc) used at time of connection, date of birth, and address at time of connection so that I can confirm your identity. 

If you are not the account owner, I cannot confirm this information with you. The account owner will need to raise a new incident and provide the required details to authorise access to their account.

If the account is in a company name, I will require a Letter of Authority on company letterhead, listing your ABN, and signed by a Director in order to action your request. This letter of authorisation may be scanned and attached to this email or alternatively faxed to 03 6210 3362 attention &#039;Correspondence Team&#039; for actioning. 

Once I have verified that you are the account holder, I will update your Contact Us profile with your mobile number and account PIN so that this information is automatically provided should you email us from your registered email address in future.

I look forward to hearing from you soon. 

Kind Regards

Tara
Correspondence Team

Vodafone Pty Limited ABN 76 062 954 554
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE &#8211; Vodafone offers big discount. &#8211; Still no response from Orange(#fail)<br />
&#8212;<br />
Hi ,</p>
<p>Thank you for your email.</p>
<p>In order to assist with your query please provide the 4 digit PIN you selected to authorise my access to your account.</p>
<p>If you do not remember your PIN, please provide the below identification requirements:</p>
<p>On Account (billed) Customers: If you are the account owner, forward your full name, date of birth, current residential address and method of payment to enable me to access your details.</p>
<p>Prepaid: Customers: If you are the account owner, forward your full name, ID number (I.e. drivers licence number, passport number etc) used at time of connection, date of birth, and address at time of connection so that I can confirm your identity. </p>
<p>If you are not the account owner, I cannot confirm this information with you. The account owner will need to raise a new incident and provide the required details to authorise access to their account.</p>
<p>If the account is in a company name, I will require a Letter of Authority on company letterhead, listing your ABN, and signed by a Director in order to action your request. This letter of authorisation may be scanned and attached to this email or alternatively faxed to 03 6210 3362 attention &#8216;Correspondence Team&#8217; for actioning. </p>
<p>Once I have verified that you are the account holder, I will update your Contact Us profile with your mobile number and account PIN so that this information is automatically provided should you email us from your registered email address in future.</p>
<p>I look forward to hearing from you soon. </p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>Tara<br />
Correspondence Team</p>
<p>Vodafone Pty Limited ABN 76 062 954 554<br />
&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1043&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@David Banes &lt;/a&gt; 

And today Orange have sent me a customer service survey asking how the issue was handled (btw this email had no reply address and contained dozens of other peoples emails &#039;bcc&#039;d&#039;!!)

Shame the issue is still open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1043" rel="nofollow">@David Banes </a> </p>
<p>And today Orange have sent me a customer service survey asking how the issue was handled (btw this email had no reply address and contained dozens of other peoples emails &#8216;bcc&#8217;d'!!)</p>
<p>Shame the issue is still open.</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@David Banes &lt;/a&gt; 

And then Vodafone asked me to confirm my ID - still no help yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1042" rel="nofollow">@David Banes </a> </p>
<p>And then Vodafone asked me to confirm my ID &#8211; still no help yet.</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And an automated reply from Orange.

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Orange strive to supply customers with the highest level of service and we would therefore like to advise that this is an automated response.

IMPORTANT...As this is an automated response, please do not reply to this acknowledgment, we will endeavour to answer your original email as soon as possible.

Please be advised that Orange aim to answer all email queries within 24 hours.  However, for this time of year we are unusually busy and there may be a longer wait than anticipated.

It is not intended that this service should be used to obtain information on your account. Customer Services will not reply to messages relating to your bill, top ups, change of personal details or activated products and services via email. If you have any queries specifically related to your account please call Customer Services on 150 if you are a pay monthly customer or 450 if you are a pay as you go customer.

If you have a Billing Enquiry I am pleased to advise that you can now send a secure message, please sign into your online account at www.orange.co.uk.  Once you have signed into the account select the billing and payment tab at the top of the screen.  Please select the option to view your bills and you will then be taken to the screen where you can view your last 18 invoices.

Next to your latest or the previous months bill will be an option to view an e-bill.  Please select this tab and you will be taken to a bill summary page.  Please scroll to the bottom of the page and select the option to &quot;click here to make a general enquiry&quot;.  This will take you to the secure message page.  Select on the send a message tab and this will enable you to submit a secure message query to Orange.

Emails relating to lost, stolen, damaged or faulty phones cannot be answered by email and will not therefore receive a reply. Please call Orange Customer Services on 150 (07973100150 from a landline) for Pay Monthly or 450 (07973100450) for Pay As You Go or you may be able to find the answer to your query by going to http://www.orange.co.uk/mobile_help_and_support/  

If you have an Orange phone and you are experiencing difficulties with your online account, you can contact our technical helpdesk by dialling 439 from your Orange phone or 07973100439 from a landline.    

Kind Regards

Orange Online Services</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And an automated reply from Orange.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Orange strive to supply customers with the highest level of service and we would therefore like to advise that this is an automated response.</p>
<p>IMPORTANT&#8230;As this is an automated response, please do not reply to this acknowledgment, we will endeavour to answer your original email as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Please be advised that Orange aim to answer all email queries within 24 hours.  However, for this time of year we are unusually busy and there may be a longer wait than anticipated.</p>
<p>It is not intended that this service should be used to obtain information on your account. Customer Services will not reply to messages relating to your bill, top ups, change of personal details or activated products and services via email. If you have any queries specifically related to your account please call Customer Services on 150 if you are a pay monthly customer or 450 if you are a pay as you go customer.</p>
<p>If you have a Billing Enquiry I am pleased to advise that you can now send a secure message, please sign into your online account at <a href="http://www.orange.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.orange.co.uk</a>.  Once you have signed into the account select the billing and payment tab at the top of the screen.  Please select the option to view your bills and you will then be taken to the screen where you can view your last 18 invoices.</p>
<p>Next to your latest or the previous months bill will be an option to view an e-bill.  Please select this tab and you will be taken to a bill summary page.  Please scroll to the bottom of the page and select the option to &#8220;click here to make a general enquiry&#8221;.  This will take you to the secure message page.  Select on the send a message tab and this will enable you to submit a secure message query to Orange.</p>
<p>Emails relating to lost, stolen, damaged or faulty phones cannot be answered by email and will not therefore receive a reply. Please call Orange Customer Services on 150 (07973100150 from a landline) for Pay Monthly or 450 (07973100450) for Pay As You Go or you may be able to find the answer to your query by going to <a href="http://www.orange.co.uk/mobile_help_and_support/" rel="nofollow">http://www.orange.co.uk/mobile_help_and_support/</a>  </p>
<p>If you have an Orange phone and you are experiencing difficulties with your online account, you can contact our technical helpdesk by dialling 439 from your Orange phone or 07973100439 from a landline.    </p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>Orange Online Services</p>
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		<title>By: David Banes</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbanes.com/2010/02/04/letter-to-vodafone-au-and-orange-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>David Banes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is Vodafones automated reply...
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Thanks for your email. 

We’ve received your enquiry and we’ll have someone get back to you ASAP. 

Below is your enquiry and reference number. If you would like to add to your enquiry, click reply first and enter your update between the lines below. 

To learn more about the email support process click here.

To update this question by email, please reply to this message. Because your reply will be automatically processed, you MUST enter your reply in the space below. Text entered into any other part of this message will be discarded. 

If you are replying with a new request instead of an update to the below query, please do not update this incident. Please go to http://vodafone.custhelp.com/app/ask to submit your question so we can answer you ASAP. 


[===&gt; Please enter your reply below this line &lt;===]

[===&gt; Please enter your reply above this line &lt;===]

 Question Reference #100204-000084
Summary: 	Fwd: Your Vodafone Email Bill for 10 Dec 2009 to 09 Jan 2010
Date Created: 	04/02/2010 11:14 AM
Last Updated: 	04/02/2010 11:14 AM
Status: 	Unresolved
First Name: 	
Surname: 	
Enquiry PIN: 	
Mobile Number: 	
 
 Email Address
 
 Discussion Thread.... etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is Vodafones automated reply&#8230;<br />
&#8211;<br />
Thanks for your email. </p>
<p>We’ve received your enquiry and we’ll have someone get back to you ASAP. </p>
<p>Below is your enquiry and reference number. If you would like to add to your enquiry, click reply first and enter your update between the lines below. </p>
<p>To learn more about the email support process click here.</p>
<p>To update this question by email, please reply to this message. Because your reply will be automatically processed, you MUST enter your reply in the space below. Text entered into any other part of this message will be discarded. </p>
<p>If you are replying with a new request instead of an update to the below query, please do not update this incident. Please go to <a href="http://vodafone.custhelp.com/app/ask" rel="nofollow">http://vodafone.custhelp.com/app/ask</a> to submit your question so we can answer you ASAP. </p>
<p>[===> Please enter your reply below this line < ===]</p>
<p>[===> Please enter your reply above this line <===]</p>
<p> Question Reference #100204-000084<br />
Summary: 	Fwd: Your Vodafone Email Bill for 10 Dec 2009 to 09 Jan 2010<br />
Date Created: 	04/02/2010 11:14 AM<br />
Last Updated: 	04/02/2010 11:14 AM<br />
Status: 	Unresolved<br />
First Name:<br />
Surname:<br />
Enquiry PIN:<br />
Mobile Number: 	</p>
<p> Email Address</p>
<p> Discussion Thread&#8230;. etc</p>
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